Thanks, Pickett -
This is gettin' to be Flight School on the Installment Plan - I luvvit !!

I appreciate your talents, as well those of everyone else, as I'm sure we all do.

I took the WOFT at Gordon and missed the max by three points, and THEN they did a vision test and
oh, well....

Now that you've explained the "spin", and I've assimilated it, and Ron Corbin has too, I sorta got it..
but I guess I'm still a bit confuzzled - at the time you start the roll, sharp turn and descent, what sort of attitude does the bird have - nose down, more "flat" like an autorotation, or ??

I got the impression from your description and Ron's that it's more like a "tailspin". Please straighten me out.

Thx.

Lump