Camp Holloway Discussion Forum Archive 02 - 05/07/01 to 02/28/03

Re: 16583 Data and Info
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Bob,

After reading after action reports for over three years and having to compare one unit's reports with another unit's reports sometimes I wonder if some of these people were even in the same country. The only fact we can believe is that the bird was on the ground and not flying any where.

I would have to believe the daily report log before anything else because I have found them to be the most actuate. Most of these were done as the incident happened and not being recalled from memory. I have found many conflicting errors in the army gold book concerning aircraft from our unit let alone all the units which were in Nam. I believe that some aircraft which were lost had to be shown as retired by some unit other then the one assigned in Nam. Judging from the location and knowing that the 1/10th operated from LZ Oasis it might have been one of their ships. I have checked all of our units with the exception of the 57th and can not find another ship with that number. I was betting on the 155th because they worked that area while they were still with the 52D Battalion but no luck there either. I am still hunting down 68-16583. That would be the only other number it could be in order to have been manufactured prior to 1969. The only other thing might be if the numbers were transposed and it read 61583. If that was the case in was a "D" model that could have been one of the ships the 1st Cav lost in 1965 or 1966.

I sometimes wonder if the people who were filling out these reports of inventory just put anything down just to get the stuff off their desks. I at one time had heard that everything which was shipped to Nam was written off as a combat loss before it left the states. Judging from the book keeping I would say that was about right.

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