Bob, that is a pretty dangerous assumption with one who has PTSD, I know that I have to be cajoled into coming out of seclusion when I am in the "mood". I talked to him about three days ago and that is why I posted the 'call to arms". I am very concerned about him and his depression but you are right that he must make the first move. All we can do is support him. Thanks for asking Lumpy! Brother Tom