Carl, I don't know if you know but my Son Paul Is attached to the 4th ID he is with 1/23in 3/2 sbct they are the new Stryker unit out of Ft Lewis. This is why I give the up-date on most of the 4ID and Stryker movements. Stange but 35 years ago I was with 119th helping the 4th across the road from Holloway... Paul