Camp Holloway Discussion Forum Archive 03 - 03/01/01 to 12/31/03

opinions and information

gleaned from various emails today-

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POSTAGE STAMP-

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military Barracks in Saudi Arabia.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11/01.

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks.

Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp.

I strongly urge you to REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this Stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp
honors.

I also strongly urge you to pass this along to every Patriotic AMERICAN you know, whether by email or otherwise.

A way of peaceful protest of the Postal Service for feeling the need to be politically correct.

America is turning into a nation of fools.

If you agree - pass it on.....

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Shocked Back to Reality

"A group of American anti-war demonstrators who came to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers made it across the border today with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot WITHOUT Iraqi government minders present. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip 'had shocked me back to reality.'

"Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera told me they would commit suicide if American bombing DIDN'T start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his
sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head.'"

- Columnist Arnaud de Borchgrave

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Helicopter crew cheats death

March 22 2003

It's a hell of a way to start a war, says a rescued commander after crash-landing on his
first combat mission. Thomas Frank reports from Kuwait.

The radio call went out and everyone in the control room froze. "Viper Six, Mayday."

The meaning was clear. Lieutenant-Colonel Dan Williams, commander of an Army helicopter battalion, was going down on his first combat mission, just moments after US forces invaded Iraq.

Chief Warrant Officer Jon Larue cleared the control room of all but a few people.

Lieutenant-Colonel Howard Ferguson, who commands Colonel Williams' sister battalion, buried his head in his hands.

Hours earlier, after Colonel Williams finished briefing his pilots about their mission, he
led them in a prayer: "Lord, forgive us for what we do and keep us safe and bring us back."

Then he shook hands with each of the 30 people and told them: "God be with you and keep you."

But now, inside the two-seat Apache attack helicopter, Chief Warrant Officer David Keshel, a 14-year veteran, sat behind Colonel Williams in the pilot's seat as the bird began to plummet from 24 metres in a swirling sandstorm.

"I'm sorry, sir," Chief Warrant Officer Keshel said into his headset.

"That's okay," Colonel Williams replied. He figured the words would be his last. They
braced for a deadly crash as Chief Warrant Officer Keshel struggled to land the Apache upright - which usually ensures survival. The Apache came down with a thud, leaning heavily to the right, partly buried in a sand dune. The two men were alive - and in Iraq. Chief Warrant Officer Keshel bolted from the helicopter, loaded a 30-round magazine into his M-16 automatic rifle and stood guard. Colonel Williams checked his global-positioning system unit, announced his co-ordinates into the radio and began checking the helicopter's condition.

In the air, Colonel Curtis Potts was flying a Black Hawk helicopter, commanding the 13 Apaches, when he heard Colonel Williams' call. He passed the co-ordinates to headquarters. Soldiers in a Bradley fighting vehicle picked up the transmission and made a bee-line for the two men.

Disoriented and unsure which way he was facing, Colonel Williams thought enemy soldiers were approaching and alerted Chief Warrant Officer Keshel. But when he saw two friendly vehicles, he yelled out: "Don't shoot, Dave, those are Bradleys."

The tank-like Bradleys and a medical vehicle surrounded the helicopter. Then a medic grabbed Colonel Williams' hand.

"Brotherhood - I knew we were safe," Colonel Williams told his soldiers two hours later
as they stood around him in a briefing room after the two men managed to get the Apache started and fly some 50 kilometres back to the safety of their base.

"It's a hell of a way to start a war." Colonel Williams told his soldiers.
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Keeping You Posted

By the USPS

At present, we have no way of confirming the following information, but always ask for proper identification if you do not know the courier.

THIS PRACTICE SHOULD ALSO APPLY FOR A USPS LETTER CARRIER THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW, because:

$32,000 worth of UPS (BROWN UNIFORMS) has been purchased over the last 30 days of person(s)
unknown on eBay. Law enforcement is working the case however no suspect(s) have been identified.

Subjects may try to gain facility access by wearing these uniforms. If anyone has suspicions about a UPS delivery (i.e. no truck, but driver, no UPS identification, etc), contact UPS to verify employment.

The New Jersey office of Counter - Terrorism has received a report of an attempt by an unknown
individual to enter a government facility by falsely posing as an employee of the United Parcel
Service. Based on this incident, security personnel should exercise heightened vigilance when screening all delivery personnel, at the entrance of all buildings and when accepting
deliveries. Such measures should include careful inspection of credentials and identification
of all delivery personnel to ensure that they are who they purport to be.

Thank you,

Patrick Kenny

USPS Columbus OH District

Note: this comes from a TRUSTED 135th AHC buddy, who got it from another trusted buddy.

Lump

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Mother of All Entangling Alliances

Tell Congress it's time to stop funding and appeasing the United Nations when it comes to American security interests. Sign this online petition telling asking your congressional representatives to get the US out of the UN.

Just go to:
http://www.libertypetitions.com/petition.html?name=get_us_out_of_un

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and here are ALL of Michael Moore's on-stage words at the Academy Awards...

"I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage. We would like to--they're here in solidarity with me because we like non-fiction. We
like non-fiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether
it's the fictition [sic] of duct tape, or the fictitious [sic] of orange alert. We are against this war Mr. Bush! Shame on you Mr. Bush! Shame on
you! And any time you've got the pope and Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up! Thank you very much!!!"
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funny- intelligence has boundaries, but ignorance does not....

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According to the CIA World Factbook, France controls over 22.5 percent of Iraq?s imports.

[1] French total trade with Iraq under the oil-for-food program is the third largest, totaling $3.1 billion

since 1996, according to the United Nations.

[2] In 2001 France became Iraq?s largest European trading partner.

Roughly 60 French companies do an estimated $1.5 billion in trade with Baghdad annually under the

U.N. oil-for-food program.

[3] France?s largest oil company, Total Fina Elf, has negotiated a deal to develop the Majnoon field in

western Iraq. The Majnoon field purportedly contains up to 30 billion barrels of oil.[4] Total Fina Elf also

negotiated a deal for future oil exploration in Iraq?s Nahr Umar field. Both the Majnoon and Nahr Umar

fields are estimated to contain as much as 25 percent of the country?s reserves.

[5] France?s Alcatel company, a major telecom firm, is negotiating a $76 million contract to rehabilitate

Iraq?s telephone system.

[6] From 1981 to 2001, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI),

France was responsible for over 13 percent of Iraq?s arms imports.

Germany

[7] Direct trade between Germany and Iraq amounts to about $350 million annually, and another $1

billion is reportedly sold through third parties.

[8] It has recently been reported that Saddam Hussein has ordered Iraqi domestic businesses to show

preference to German companies as a reward for Germany?s ?firm positive stand in rejecting the

launching of a military attack against Iraq.? It was also reported that over 101 German companies were

present at the Baghdad Annual exposition.

[9] During the 35th Annual Baghdad International Fair in November 2002, a German company signed a

contract for $80 million for 5,000 cars and spare parts.

[10] In 2002, DaimlerChrysler was awarded over $13 million in contracts for German trucks and spare

parts.

[11] German officials are investigating a German corporation accused of illegally channeling weapons to

Iraq via Jordan. The equipment in question is used for boring the barrels of large cannons and is

allegedly intended for Saddam Hussein?s Al Fao Supercannon project.

Russia

[12] According to the CIA World Factbook, Russia controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq?s annual

imports.

[13] Under the U.N. oil-for-food program, Russia?s total trade with Iraq was somewhere between $530

million and $1 billion for the six months ending in December of 2001.

[14] According to the Russian Ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Titorenko, new contracts worth another

$200 million under the U.N. oil-for-food program are to be signed over the next three months.

[15] Soviet-era debt of $7 billion through $8 billion was generated by arms sales to Iraq during the

1980?1988 Iran?Iraq war.

Russia?s LUKoil negotiated a $4 billion, 23-year contract in 1997 to rehabilitate the 15 billion-barrel

West Qurna field in southern Iraq. Work on the oil field was expected to commence upon cancellation of

U.N. sanctions on Iraq. The deal is currently on hold.

[16] In October 2001, Salvneft, a Russian?Belarus company, negotiated a $52 million service contract to

drill at the Tuba field in Southern Iraq.

[17] In April 2001, Russia?s Zaruezhneft company received a service contract to drill in the Saddam,

Kirkuk, and Bai Hassan fields to rehabilitate the fields and reduce water incursion.

A future $40 billion Iraqi?Russian economic agreement, reportedly signed in 2002, would allow for

extensive oil exploration opportunities throughout western Iraq.

[18] The proposal calls for 67 new projects, over a 10-year time frame, to explore and further develop

fields in southern Iraq and the Western Desert, including the Suba, Luhais, West Qurna, and Rumaila

projects. Additional projects added to the deal include second-phase construction of a pipeline running

from southern to northern Iraq, and extensive drilling and gas projects. Work on these projects would

commence upon cancellation of sanctions.

[19] Russia?s Gazprom company over the past few years has signed contracts worth $18 million to

repair gas stations in Iraq.[20] The former Soviet Union was the premier supplier of Iraqi arms. From

1981 to 2001, Russia supplied Iraq with 50 percent of its arms.

China

[21] According to the CIA World Factbook, China controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq?s annual imports.

[22] China National Oil Company, partnered with China North Industries Corp., negotiated a 22-year-long

deal for future oil exploration in the Al Ahdab field in southern Iraq.

[23] In recent years, the Chinese Aero-Technology Import?Export Company (CATIC) has been

contracted to sell ?meteorological satellite? and ?surface observation? equipment to Iraq. This contract

was approved by the U.N. oil-for-food program.

[24] CATIC also won approval from the U.N. in July 2000 to sell $2 million worth of fiber optic cables.

This and similar contracts approved were disguised as telecommunications gear. These cables can be

used for secure data and communications links between national command and control centers and

long-range search radar, targeting radar, and missile-launch units, according to U.S. officials. In

addition, China National Electric Wire & Cable and China National Technical Import Telecommunications

Equipment Company are believed to have sold Iraq $6 million and $15.5 million worth of communications

equipment and other unspecified supplies, respectively.

[25] According to a report from SIPRI, from 1981 to 2001, China was the second largest supplier of

weapons and arms to Iraq, supplying over 18 percent of Iraq?s weapons imports.

[26] IF YOU DON'T READ ANYTHING ELSE, READ THE LAST ITEM UNDER EACH COUNTRY

AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THROUGH 2001, THESE FOUR COUNTRIES PLUS THE UN ARE

RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPPLYING IRAQ 81% OF THEIR ARMS AND TECHNOLOGY

TO WAGE WAR AND TERROR. OBVIOUS TO THEIR MOTIVES FOR A

VETO OR "NO" VOTE IN THE UN.