Lumpy what is needed here is for Prez. Bush to say.. Ok you are not exacuting, you are disfiguring, you are not playing by the rules of war, you, as of 5 am this morning was bomb back to the stone age. And then do it, level all the areas that the insurgents are holding and I'll bet that Bushs lead over kerry will jump 15%. people are tired of all this pussy footing around. we have tried it there way, now is to time to act and act swiftly, enough is enough.....Paul sr