I also like the 00 buck with my 12 gauge, but for the close in work, I prefer the same load in my short, pistol grip police special 12 gauge riot gun. I don't like to have to aim. Besides, I don't see as well as used to. Of course, I have several rifle types with scopes for the long range stuff. Leaving to chance. Sure would like to keep an armed Charlie in the back yard. Darn!

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