Bob,

My daughter is one of those liberals, I have tried to have discussions with her, but when she is challenged, she only has one problem with Bush, and that was an environmental problem. When confronted by Kerry's record after Vietnam, it was all a lie as far as she was concerned. When asked about the economy, taxes, and other topics that were in play before the election, she became indignant and had to go back to work 30 minutes early. Extremely narrow minded about the war in Iraq, she believes that if we had left them alone that they would just play in their own back yard. "It's not our job to tell others how to govern their countries", the old Carter, head in the sand routine.

You have to let them do their own thing, you can't teach them anything and they won't discuss anything if it doesn't follow their way of thinking.

Huey