Camp Holloway Discussion Forum Archive 04 - 01/01/04 to 02/10/06

for those who've forgotten

A lot of gun control propaganda states the second ammendment is "only for the maintenance of militia" and never defines "militia". They further state that the national guard and a standing army have replaced the 'Militia" and thus,they want to disarm the American people. Read below, and you will see that the "militia" is in fact "The People" and NO OFFICIAL IN THE USA has the authority to disband it. And NO state Has the right to Disarm the people, yet it's being done and been upheld by activist judges who call the Constitution a "living document" subject to rewrite at their pleasure. I say "NO!" And If all citizens would insist on the restoration of ALL CIVIL RIGHTS, The gun control folks would be out of business. Gun control should mean "hitting what you're aiming at" and not taking freedoms away from the people. The puropse of the second ammendment is to Protect the rest of the constitution from abuse. And it is the duty of every american to defend ALL of the constitution, not just the parts they agree with. I say the constitution gives you the rightto shoot an oppressor then go after the official that sent him!.
BT

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

Militia
"The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, ... all men capable of bearing arms;..."
— "Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic", 1788 (either Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith).
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
— Tench Coxe, 1788.

"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."
— Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.

If we are ready to violate the Constitution, will the people submit to our unauthorized acts? Sir, they ought not to submit; they would deserve the chains that our measures are forging for them, if they did not resist.
— Edward Livingston

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
— Mao Zedong, Nov. 6, 1938, Selected Works, Vol. 2

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