Camp Holloway Discussion Forum Archive 05 - 02/12/06 to 01/21/10

Re: ILLEGALS
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: I just want to say that there should be a
: better way to handle the problem. Putting
: soldiers on the border. Shooting them as
: they come across. Putting up fences. What
: are we coming to a police state? Now I know
: you don't agree with me about this, but
: wouldn't be a smart thing to do is to go to
: "do nothing Bush" and have him
: take care of this country and stop cutting
: money for the Vets, New Orleans, the border
: gaurds, health care, etc. There is of course
: something we have to do. 10 million illegals
: is way more tham I can handle. But what we
: are doing doesn't work, can we come up with
: something that does work?

Larry,

No ass whoopin here! Just gonna take the time to state the facts, and ask you to read what is being said and not what you want to here.

You are the only one who has said anything about shooting illegals. If you look back over what I have said, the only ones that I have recommended stopping are the Illegals who are on the way now. I agree with President Bush, we do need a guest worker program.

Lindsey Graham, R, South Carolina, laid out President Bush's plan this morning on the FOX NEWS Channel, and you will be able to watch what he said today at 3 PM your time, I recommend that you watch it.

1). I recommend the military to secure our borders, because it is the cheapest and quickest way to occupy the boarder, far cheaper than Border Patrol Agents, and it is authorized by our constitution.

2). All Illegals who are currently in the USA would be required to register and they would be given a "no later than" date to register. To try to ship everyone home at a single feld swoop would be impossible.
a). Failure to register would mean that they would be deported if they brought attention to themselves.
b). Those who become good citizens (most would) would be processed for citizenship after a given period of time.
c). Those who broke our laws would be deported or imprisoned.
d). Citizenship under the guest worker program would require the Illegals to Learn English, become tax paying citizens, and follow the laws of our land.
e). The guest worker program would place the Illegals behind all who are currently in the system legally seeking citizenship, but it would not deport them, AND it would eventually allow them citizenship. Eleven years was mentioned for citizenship.
f). Those who became a burden on our system by not working would be subject to being deported.

3). This would not prevent people from applying for a guest worker permit, but it would require that the people be slated for a job when their guest worker permit was authorized.

4). The border lockdown and return policy would only be for those who are currently attempting to illegally enter the USA.

As far as who is cutting the funding and how the funding is being cut, I think that you need to read what is being said in congress and who is saying it and why. Many of the cuts that so many are screaming about are not cuts in budgeting, they are simply reductions in the amount of increase that is currently being requested. Who set those high limits - check the record.

Those who wish to gain political clout are calling them cuts. Check the congressional record I think that you will find what I am saying is correct.

As far as bad-mouthing the things that our government and our President is doing, I recommend that you check the record and see who is doing what, with which, and to whom.

Take the time to learn, don't listen to rhetoric and the words of politicians who are trying to get elected in their political areas. Politicians try to stir the people up in order to anger them and cause them to vote a specific way, generally their information has been spun to meet their needs. Politicians (all parties) depend on the gullability of the voting public.

Be independant LEARN, then look before you leap!

Dave

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