That is what I told Viv, when she ask how I knew it was one of ours... I told her that was our trademark. We stood on the door gun mount or on the skids to see better, and yes we could. I remember once coming into Holloway with green smoke tied to our skids, Fozzmo and I was on the skids, after a good mission. Doing a fly-by, Boy did we get reemed.. But, I would still do it again... still stubborn in Missouri..... Paul sr