one event, several witnesses, several points of view....then, maybe, they were all the same Roundeye...

no biggie.. I was under the impression since early '70 that the Viet expression that sounded like "crocodile" was a corruption of the reputation of the Crocs for their combat effectiveness.

"cat cai dau", per a Bro whose wife is a Viet, is "cut off head"...

I stand corrected.

Lump